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31. From Weddings to Social Work: Olivia Grigg’s Inspiring Journey

• Amy Sussex • Episode 31

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In this inspiring episode, we dive into the journey of Olivia Grigg, the founder of a Olivia Therapy & Retreats.  She shares her story of courage, growth, and the importance of saying "yes" even when things feel scary. From starting her business without feeling fully ready to expanding her team and mentoring aspiring entrepreneurs. 


She shares her passion for people who want to start their own business and don’t know how so her focus is for them to start with her and then flourish into their own business. 


She shares tips with our listeners about some easy self care practices she does, and tips for anyone thinking of working with a therapist.  



Connect with Olivia  

https://www.instagram.com/oliviagrigg.rsw/

https://www.oliviagriggrsw.ca/

https://www.oliviagriggrsw.ca/restorative-retreat-for-educators.html 

Connect with Amy

https://www.instagram.com/amy.sussex/

https://www.instagram.com/thebusinessmanagementco/

https://thebusinessmanagementco.com/

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to you Are your Business podcast, a podcast to chat about you, your life, your business and everything in between. I am your host, amy Sussex, and I started my entrepreneurial journey six years ago, creating a holistic wellness business, and I run a business along with that called the Business Management Co. I'm an executive business manager who works behind the scenes with small businesses, helping you to shift your mindset around your business, get organized, get your business working for you instead of your business running you. In this podcast, I'm here to remind you that you didn't start a business to be stressed out 24 seven. I'm here to provide you with tips, tricks, techniques to support you along your journey. I love connecting with other entrepreneurs, and so I have guests on to share their journey, learn more and inspire you to continue following techniques to support you along your journey. I love connecting with other entrepreneurs, and so I have guests on to share their journey, learn more and inspire you to continue following along with your passion. You are the most important thing in your business and I'm here to support you through it.

Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, and welcome back to you Are your Business podcast, and today I'm excited to be chatting with Olivia. She is a registered social worker in Ontario, managing a small team of social workers and collaborating with other businesses to host wellness retreats within her community. Olivia is passionate about creating group experiences for clients and colleagues to rest and connect with others. Her approach to clients is with unconditional warmth and compassion, supporting individuals to find the wisdom to heal within themselves. Her area of focus includes the perinatal population as well as people who are recovering from religious trauma. Together with her team, they see youth adults, couples and focus on self-compassion strategies. Welcome, olivia, so great to connect with you today.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. Thank you for that intro. It felt really great to hear.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sometimes we forget, like, what we've done or what we're building and how far we've come right. So, yeah, amazing. So before we dive in, I just like to kind of ask a few questions just for our listeners, to kind of get to know a little bit more about you. So do you have like a favorite book or a podcast or anything that you like to listen to or read?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I absolutely do. Right now I'm really hooked on everything that Hillary McBride is putting out. Okay, she has an amazing book called the wisdom of your body and she has a couple of really good podcasts, one about religious trauma and then an older one that is actually recorded therapy sessions between her and real clients. So it's amazing as a therapist to hear those sessions, and it's also great if you're someone looking for therapy, because you can kind of get a sense for what it could feel like or what it could sound like.

Speaker 1:

Or what the experience is like. That's a really good point, cause some people, I'm sure, create narratives in their head about what it would be like, and this is a great way for them to kind of learn a little behind the scenes.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, I love it yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, very cool. Um, do you have like a favorite food?

Speaker 2:

Um, I have such a sweet tooth, so basically, like any chocolate or like donut type of thing, that would be my go-to meals, though I really love, I really love like just classic, like chicken potatoes type of thing, yeah, yeah um, I think your office is downtown.

Speaker 1:

So, um, there used to be boxcar donuts downtown. So, yes, yeah, I know you're probably missing that thing because I think they've like moved now to like other locations. But yeah, when I was in my corporate job and I worked downtown, um yeah, when we needed like that afternoon break, it was always the boxcar donuts were so good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so, so good. Honestly, though, I love like a classic Tim Hortons, like plain donut.

Speaker 1:

Really Just like honey dip, like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I love it.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. Um, do you have like a favorite vacation or something that you like to do for fun?

Speaker 2:

Um, okay, recently we actually took the kids to Lamplighter here in London, which is like five minute drive from our house.

Speaker 2:

It was so fun. They have a pool with like a water slide and a waterfall and it like we didn't have to travel and we just stayed for a night and the kids loved it. I loved it Like our room was right beside the pool and we we've been doing a lot of staycations since COVID happened where we only go like maximum an hour away and we stay at a hotel with a pool. That's been my. I've loved it and it's easier with like I have three kids, so it's less expense and easier to not go too far.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I didn't even think about like. Sometimes we think about going further away, but, yeah, even locally, because it's true, like once you're ready to go home, you and the kids are like ready to go home. You're like oh my God, I don't want to like have to go on a plane, or like drive for hours for this morning. We're like guess what, In an hour we're going to be home, or five minutes We'll be home.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, that's a really good you like, got bottles on the way home and then we were home.

Speaker 1:

Perfect, that's awesome. That's so fun. Um, what is one of your favorite things about being an?

Speaker 2:

entrepreneur, I love the freedom and flexibility to just like try stuff, yeah, even if it doesn't go well. It's like, okay, well, nobody was evaluating me on that except for myself. Yeah, it's like I've had a couple of groups that I've tried and people didn't sign up. So I was like, okay, well, I'll just take it off the website. No one needs to know.

Speaker 1:

It's true, and you're like, at least I got to try it, as opposed to it like percolating in your head of wanting to try it. And yeah, you know someone else telling you, no, you can't try this or you shouldn't do this, where you're like I'm going to do it. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, that's okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like I can just run when I'm inspired, like I can run with the idea, see, see if it works, see if my community is into it, and then I can just take the feedback directly, whether it was good or not, rather than all the hoops you have to go through when you're like working for someone else.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's amazing. Yeah, I love that too. So, kind of, how did you get started with starting your own business? Was it something that you always knew you wanted to do, or did it just kind of fall into your lap, or was it an evolution?

Speaker 2:

I've always kind of had an entrepreneurial kind of spirit, Like my. My family in general is just very self-employed. I actually did a music degree right out of high school. So I started a wedding company playing violin and cello at weddings. So I've been running a different business for like 10 years almost. I've been doing that for a really long time, yeah. So it's not like new to me to be running a business, but in this field this definitely happened kind of sooner than I had been planning, but it just it all kind of happened at the right time and I found this beautiful space that you can see I'm sitting in the listeners, can't.

Speaker 1:

But no, it's a beautiful space here and there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Everything. I just kind of keep saying yes, especially when things kind of feel scary. I'm like you know what, let's do it.

Speaker 1:

And then it has led me to where I am right now and I'm sure I'm going to keep saying yes to scary things, but I think that's such a good point about you know, it sounds like you're being listening to, like your body, in the sense of saying yes to it, and then like I'll figure it out as I go, and then it's turned out to be more like better than you expected it to be. It sounds like, too yes.

Speaker 2:

Like I wouldn't say I started because I was ready. I definitely was not ready.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I just started. And then here we are, yeah, and I think the key is starting and I'm sure so many times you probably hear it within like people that come at your clients, that come and see you, that they're wanting to make a change and it's probably challenging for them to even make a change and you're doing that not only through you know, supporting them, but even with yourself, with growing your business and growing a team and making those changes too, totally yeah, yeah. So how did it start then, with you even like starting a small team? I saw that you've kind of been like growing and evolving and adding people on as well too. So was that just kind of as the clients grew, or was that part of the vision of, like I want to have a community that we can all work together too?

Speaker 2:

um, it's a bunch of things. The first, the main thing, is it was like the right people at the right time, um, who kind of just came into my life at these funny moments and I was like, hey, we would work really well together. And it was like professional from the beginning. Boundaries were there in a really healthy way and it just like made sense. The second thing is I've always pictured having a team, but I don't picture becoming like a really large group practice.

Speaker 2:

My, I really have a passion for people who want to start their own business but like are really nervous too or don't really know how. So I like the and I also really like change. I know that about myself. I like meeting new people, I like turnover, I like things to be different. So my goal is to find sort of like emerging therapists who eventually want to start their own practice but want somewhere to like get going, a landing point kind of thing. Yeah, and my hope is that after working with me for like maybe one to two years and they feel ready to launch, they can take their clients with them. They can have my full support and not feel like they have to be secretive about that at all.

Speaker 2:

It would just be like yeah time for you to fly, like off you go, and that it could be time for another person to join my team. So I think I have two other social workers working with me right now. That's kind of where I think I'll keep it over over the next little while and then, just like, as people leave and start their own things, that I'll think I'll keep it over over the next little while and then, just like, as people leave and start their own things, that I'll I'll add, based on that, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I I love that and I think that's such an amazing gift that you're giving to not only the people that are coming to work for you, but also the clients as well too, cause I you don't typically hear that often. I know we all say like we support each other and let's be collaborative. But the fact that you're like my vision is like come in, I'll help you and you want to grow your own business, like that's great, like go ahead and do that. Where a lot of times, people, unfortunately, can get kind of stuck in that mentality of like this entire business is mine and even though you're here to like the client roster has to stay with me, type of thing. Like I've seen that kind of um happen at times too. So I think it's amazing that you're like no, I'm. This is a space for you to grow and evolve and for your clients to continue to love on you and grow and go with you too. So I think that's such a beautiful thing you're offering.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. Yeah, I really stand by that. I think it will probably come with its difficulties too, when there is, maybe if there's like turnover all at once. That's challenging, but it's the challenge that I'm willing to take on to be ethical in the way we're approaching people. Yes, I wish I had had that when I started out and I didn't, so I'm happy to be able to do that for other people and I didn't.

Speaker 1:

So I'm happy to be able to do that for other people, and I think it's also sometimes figuring out what you don't want or you don't like, so that you can now implement and create that in your own business as well too. Yes, yeah, yes. So how do you find it with like balancing your own clients as well as like managing a team, like from you being the business owner? Like how have you been finding with that as well?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm still definitely learning because I've had this small team. I added the first person in January, the second person in March, so it's like really fresh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But the main thing was I also hired a admin assistant and that has been it's changed everything in such a really good way. I was really avoiding that because I was like, oh, I don't think I have like the budget to pay someone to do that kind of thing. I was like I can just do the emails, it's fine. Yeah, it's like okay, the more administrative emails that are coming in, the more my head like literally ready to explode. Yeah, yeah, and I didn't have the capacity to show up well for my clients. So I was like, okay, even if we I feel like I don't have the budget, I'm just going to do it. And then it has resulted in more capacity for all of us because someone's doing, someone's dedicated to that work and she yeah. So that has been a really big learning curve and I'm glad I that was one of the things that had. I said no because I was scared I would have really lost out.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely yeah. And then I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

No, go ahead, go go. I was going to say, too, like my, I I'm using the independent contractor model where you do a split Um and we have made it in the contract that it's strictly a business agreement, so I'm not offering um supervision to the therapists, so they it's required that they have supervision outside of this business. So I really like that in terms of like the, the clients remain theirs. Yeah, the supervision that's happening is outside of me and all I know is like the logistical side of like their names, they're paying when they're coming.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's again a great way to like separate for you and then also give you that capacity as well. To have like this is the one element. This is what I want to do. This is why I feel like my strength is, so I'm going to stick with that and then let them work with like having supervision and other place too, and I think the fact that you hire someone sometimes it can be scary to hire when you're not ready, but I think the, like you said, it's opened up now that you have more capacity for your clients.

Speaker 1:

But even at the beginning you had mentioned about having ideas. You can now act on those ideas as opposed to you know what? I know? These spend like five hours sending out all these emails or responding to emails that you don't necessarily realize how much time they're actually taking up for you. Yeah, so much time. Yes, so I saw that you're also, um, you tend to host retreats, which is amazing. Um, so is there one? What is? I guess? I have a couple of questions here, if I could get them out. So one of my questions is what is it like hosting a retreat as a social worker? Because a lot of times I've seen not the social work aspect tied to the retreat, and I think that that's again an amazing offering that you're bringing to the community too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the types of retreats that I'm hosting are very collaborative. So the main like I am hosting it as a social worker, the main kind of bulk of the day is like a group therapeutic treatment with me. Um, so that could include like guided meditation, guided journaling, guided conversation, um, like somatic exercises, um, and then I I always hire someone to do either like a yoga practice or something physical, like body-based Um, and then it physical, like body-based Um, and then it like to me it becomes a retreat when you add food, but it's usually like a lunch or like some catered snacks, um, and then another session with me. So, yeah, like the the term retreat for me it could, you could call it an event, you could call it group therapy. I like the term retreat because it's like I'm giving myself this time in the day to just go do something for myself.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and so that's just kind of what they've ended up being. They're. They're usually like a half day. I always do them on Sundays. I just choose different locations around the city and they just kind of. They kind of just evolve over time about what they're, what they're going to be like in the. In the winter I did an acupuncture retreat. So people came and they had a whole session with me and then they had community acupuncture with my colleague. But we did it together. So it's super, super fun as someone who's kind of like a busy body and really likes to know, where it's like I'm not hiring.

Speaker 2:

I don't have to have like employees to be collaborative. I can actually just like work with other small businesses and make sure they're being paid appropriately. Yeah, I could go on and on and on about retreat. I'm very passionate about it because I just think it offers time for people to connect with others if they want to. But you could also come to the retreat and spend the day mostly in solitude, and that would also be totally acceptable.

Speaker 1:

And the fact that it caters to both, like if you're needing that, you're providing an experience in that space for people in whatever capacity or needing. It sounds like at that time too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the one coming up that I'm doing for educators specifically is on this beautiful like farm, and so if people don't want to participate in any part of the day, they can just like go be in nature and kind of do what they need for the day. So I always kind of preface when people arrive like this day is to be used how you want it. Everything here is an invitation for you, but you don't have to, you don't have to share anything about yourself. You could just listen. It's very, it's very easygoing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's awesome and, I think, very timely in June for teachers because again, allowing them to like connect ground themselves from the year that they've just had going into to summer yeah exactly, yeah and I saw I think you have another one coming up in August about is it scaries in school?

Speaker 2:

I want to say I held it September series. That's what it is.

Speaker 1:

I was like I knew I would think was September was school because with my kids, but yeah, yeah, yeah, honestly, a lot of my retreats come from like personal, personal things.

Speaker 2:

Like I always am stressed in August about what's going to happen in the fall, like this new routine yes, who's the teacher? How are we going to work it out? Yes, that's when I would want to retreat, so I'm like let's just do it. And then a lot of my clients are teachers, so I'm just often thinking about how teachers are feeling and what I'm hearing from them, that kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think that's also amazing that you're offering a service and offering an experience for people based on conversations you're having with your clients, and no one knows that, like this was derived from you talking to Susie or Jane. Right, this is like you creating this with a need that you keep seeing amongst your clients.

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah so are you able to share kind of some practices that you do as far as like self-care? I know self-care can be a bit of a buzzword at times, so is there something that you do, or is there like a thing that you recommend to a lot of your clients to do, to kind of help support them with what they are experiencing?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for myself, my go-to right now is having therapist friends who have just like an understanding I get it, I'm going to text you something. You do not have to respond right away, but like I need you eventually. And I really appreciate the connections that I've made with other women who own businesses, who are kind of going through the same thing and just knowing like, okay, yeah, none of us are doing this perfectly, we're never going to do it perfectly, because we're humans and it's okay to share, like hey, this thing happened today and it really sucked. Or or also to share our celebrations with each other. That has just been so encouraging.

Speaker 2:

Cause I thought, yeah, so that that has been self-care for me in this first year of business, in terms of like saying yes to invitations of other people who are like, hey, do you want to get coffee? We have like a similar business in terms of like saying yes to invitations of other people who are like, hey, do you want to get coffee? We have like a similar business. I'm like, yeah, let's do that, and I'm so glad that I've done that. Um, also, this sounds extremely biased, but regular therapy really helps me. Yes, and then trying to exercise as much as I can, even if that's just like I went for a 20 minute walk. So I really try to.

Speaker 2:

I'm just not the type of person who, like, goes to the gym every day. I've never been a person and I probably never will be but trying to be active in some way to get some of the feelings that I'm holding onto out. So I do talk about that with clients too. Like cause, when you just say, oh, like you should get exercise, that like we kind of just put that in. Like, okay, like she thinks I should go to the gym, but I'm like, no, no, like you could just literally go and stand and have the sunshine on your face for five minutes and breathe. That's great. That's what we're talking about. So like trying to bring it back to the basics, almost.

Speaker 1:

Which I think is a really good point for people, because, again, they build up this story in their head of okay, I need to go to the gym. So I now got to create this routine and a lot of times it probably doesn't actually come to life because they've created this whole story around doing it where you're like just be in the moment, go for a walk, go see the sun, go watch the rain for a moment Right, so just being present it sounds like too and moving your body.

Speaker 2:

For sure, yeah, and for people who have kids, it's. It's not easy to just recommend like oh, join this class, join this activity. It's expensive, you don't, you won't have childcare all the time. By the time you're done your workday, the kids are in bed. Sometimes you don't feel like popping out and going to a class. So that's why I think trying to really bring it back to the basics is is important, and not trying to put these big expectations in terms of exercise. It's more just like move your body in some way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it even sounds like honor the season of life you're in, like with having young kids. I've had to remind myself that right now, like 6am workout is not a realistic thing for me, because my youngest is up at 6 am so I'm spending that time with her. Or going to a class at eight o'clock at night again isn't a realistic expectation for me. So I think it's again reminding people to honor the season you're in and kind of, as your business changes, so do you and so does what's happening right.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, and sometimes sleep is actually just the best option. Yes, go to bed.

Speaker 1:

Yes, absolutely. Then we underestimate the value of sleep, that's for sure. So we do so for someone who has never experienced therapy before. I know you had mentioned at the beginning about like a podcast. Is there any other way, like I think I saw on your website, you do like a 15 minute consult for them to kind of talk with you about? You know what it is there like, how does that work, kind of thing if someone's looking to connect?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I always recommend people to book the 15 minute calls with any therapist you're looking for, because you can get a sense pretty quickly if you vibe with the person or not.

Speaker 2:

And it doesn't mean anything about you or them if you don't like it, yeah, and the therapist can probably tell as well. So if in 15 minutes you're like I did not really like how that conversation went, then don't spend your money talking to that person for an hour. It's not. It doesn't hurt our feelings as therapists if you don't book the full session and it's better for you to not waste your time with someone that you're not really feeling it with. So the 15 minute calls are there for like a little chit chat, get a little bit of information about the support you're looking for. If you're not really sure what support you're looking for you're just like I know I need some type of help Then it's the therapist job to explain like this is what I can offer, this is the types of strategies that I use, and then you can assess for yourself if that feels good. Yeah, I think those intro calls are are key, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a great way to get, like you said, it's a working relationship, right? So to make sure that it's on both ends feeling comfortable. Yeah, yeah, amazing Cause I've even found that for myself within my wellness business, doing that because you know we can't. We want to help everyone when you're in the service industry, but you can't help everyone. So the fact that, like, if someone comes to you, um, you know, for example, reflexology people have been like, oh my gosh, I'm pregnant, can you help me with this? And like I can, but I actually know someone who's specialized in this, and then, like, I refer them out. So I think, again, the fact that you're building within your network is an amazing point too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm really proud of that. I'm really happy to be like leading that way.

Speaker 1:

Amazing. So you had talked a little bit about your vision, so kind of what is your vision for, like the next five years of Olivia, yeah so kind of what is your vision for like the next five years of Olivia?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I so. I my the office that I'm in is really, really beautiful. I have two office spaces here, but I would love, like within the next five years, to move to a place that I can do retreats, like in-house, yep. So, because it is quite a high cost right now to be booking all these different venues, um, and I like to keep the retreat small, like the largest one I've done was 20 and that felt like a little bit too big. So I don't need like a huge, huge space, um, but it needs to be able to like fit yoga mats and stuff, so that that's like the main thing right now is.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, okay, when do I make a shift like that? Um, where should it be? Cause I love being downtown London, um, but it's also very expensive downtown London. So, yeah, in the next five years, I would love to be moving to a place that has like two to three offices, a reception area and like a large group space. But I'm I'm going to have to wait until I find like the exact right place, cause I don't after that I don't want to move again, like keep yeah, like you're set, this is like your vision.

Speaker 1:

This is what you're wanting as far as, like, the therapist space and then having that for the retreats.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, cause, yeah, I feel like I've shuffled my clients around a little bit and I want to have like a set place that we're at and then and then, yeah, and also could potentially like rent the studio space out to other people who want to do groups, right, so we'll just kind of see what happens. But yeah, like I said too, I I don't know if I want a team much bigger than what I currently have maybe like one more social worker would be good, but, um, yeah, I kind of I like the idea of just like keeping it small. I don't want to be a huge, huge group practice.

Speaker 1:

I like that, like an intimate community. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. So is there anything else you'd like our listeners to know about social work or what you guys have to offer?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would just say, say like I think it's important for clients and for therapists to, when you have opportunities in front of you that kind of give you a little bit of a stomachache because you're nervous about it. It probably means like you should do it, like maybe maybe stomach aches not the best way to say it but you can feel like the butterflies in your tummy yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Feeling of like I either I would like to try therapy, I'm feeling drawn to this person, or, if you're a business owner and you're like I think I'd like to try this idea, like go with it. Like the worst thing that's going to happen is you realize it's a no or a closed door, and then so you wait for the next time to be inspired.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely Cause I think, yeah, the the what, if or like I could have done this 10 years ago. As far as, like, the entrepreneur thing is the huge realization for people that you could sit where you're at and stay stuck or you could just give it a try and, like you said, the worst thing that happens is it's a no or the door closes, and but at least you tried, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, Cause we don't have to announce our failures, right, Like you can tell your close people. I tried this thing and it didn't work out, but you don't like it doesn't have to be there. Doesn't have to be shame involved with something you tried not going. Well it's just like learn that it's not going to work.

Speaker 1:

And it doesn't mean anything about you either right I think, yeah, you bring up a good point with shame, because I think so often when things don't go as planned or we think that we failed, we think the rest of the world knows that and is like shunning us because we did something and it didn't go as what we anticipated with. And even you had mentioned about how you put out a couple of programs and you're like okay, people don't want it, that's okay, take off the website and just being impartial to it, meaning anything about you as the person.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly. And as someone who uses social media pretty regularly for my business, I feel like sometimes I'll get comments from people who don't know me very well who are like how are you managing all these things? Like you're just doing so well and I'm like well, I don't. I show you all the things that are going really great. Yeah, like I post really great outfits when I'm wearing a great outfit, but that's like once a week, yeah. And then like, yes, my retreats, like I, I'm proud of my success, but that doesn't mean that everything's going perfectly all the time. But one of my boundaries is like keeping my personal life off of my business Instagram. So you don't like you don't see everything behind a business account. So I think we all know that. But I feel like, as much as we can remind each other that like if someone looks like they're just killing it every day and they're just so successful, it's like, yes, but also they're human and there's also life things going on, like we're not heroes, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and, like you said, too, it's you never know what's happening behind the scenes for people. So I think it's amazing that people are congratulating you, but you're like you said, you could have just had like a terrible day or something happened or a conversation with a spouse or a child that no one knows that's going on, and yeah. So I think it's again having a boundary of what you want to share and what you feel comfortable with sharing too. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing, awesome. Well, it was amazing chatting with you today and getting to learn more about your business and what you have to offer, and I'll be sure to include your Instagram page as well as your website. Is there any other things you want to share with our listeners? No, that's perfect.

Speaker 1:

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